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Figuring out online poker

Theoretically, a person in a casino could win every single hand he was dealt in a tournament because the cards are shuffled by hand and true probability is involved…obviously the odds of this happening, of course, would be in the 1 in several billions, but nevertheless, it can theoretically happen. There is always a chance.

As I have noticed with most online poker sites, however, it is EXTREMELY rare that a one person legitimately is dealt more than 3 winning hands in a row (besides pushing and stealing with blinds…I’m talking about cards that provide winning hands, here). While online poker sites claim to have random hand generators, the algorithms used to create these generators are obviously made to let the players of the whole table each have a couple of winning hands, and the pot sizes are out of the generator’s control. If you were sitting at a table and one person seemed to always hit the nuts, it simply MUST be a glitch in the system. Think about it…Having card generators that are TRULY random (as random as thoroughly shuffling by hand) would be bad business. People winning hands and tournaments over and over again would prove that the site is absolutely NOT random, and less people would pay to play.

Therefore, in attempting to prove a card site is random, algorithms are used to prevent the same person from winning multiple hands and tournaments back to back…but this is simply a form of controlling the winners of the site, which in turn proves that the site is NOT random at all to begin with.

I hate online poker because it gives one the false sense of playing in a casino where the cards dealt are truly random. It is entirely obvious that all online poker is controlled, and while some hands MAY be random according to their “card generators”, there is a part of the system that makes sure players do not win hands and tournaments back to back, or at least on a daily basis.

My case was proved perfectly today. Online poker is all high-highs and low-lows. There is rarely a happy-medium. Yesterday I did well in the tournaments I played in, winning one and coming close to final- tabling the other. But in the one tournament I played today, my aces were cracked by nines and my jacks were cracked by K7, all-ins preflop. I got the hands, but they would not hold. My argument is the system was making sure I did not have as much success as I did yesterday. Mission accomplished. Online poker everywhere is not real poker, this site included, and while some skill is involved to winning tournaments online, there were not at least three or four points in the tournament where the winner got extremely lucky. The same thing may and may not be said about tournaments in real life. Hence the drama and conflict about playing poker online…

COMMENTS

POSTED BY:
bogolyubovo

Aug 19, 08 05:16 PM

BUBB--Same thing is happening to me but its because I've seen, so many callers are in the hand --people treat this site like a free roll --its incredible !

Just play tighter andf value- bet your great hands !

Jon

POSTED BY:
IrishQueeen

Jun 04, 08 11:07 AM

In live play, I was once dealt pocket aces 3 times in a row. Needless to say I won a lot the last time.

POSTED BY:
DietzLegend

Jun 04, 08 07:30 AM

All i can say about this "randomness" is I've seen people including myself being dealt the same exact hand up to three times in a row. Now most of the time I get the short hand of the stick, but what really got me in a 500 nightly was that some player, I honestly don't remember their name, was dealt the same pocket Aces twice in a rows. Now I ask you this how can you put someone on aces twice in a row especially when in both times I had pairs of kings and queens respectively with blanks for him

POSTED BY:
dawgmeat

Jun 04, 08 02:45 AM

(cont'd)... dealt out of random. cards are cut-shuffled several times, usually 3~4 times, before being dealt out so it will be hard for anyone to pick up any patterns and sequence of a particular nature, therefore achieving EQUALFINALITY.
"dawgmeat"

POSTED BY:
dawgmeat

Jun 04, 08 02:35 AM

hi,
the man is simply trying to express his own personal thoughts. you don't need to touch the technical aspect of his thoughts, because the man is not attempting to represent himself as an expert on the subject. it's nothing more than one person's own thoughts. and, i really don't know if there is such thing as "more random" or "less random." is random an absolute or relative value? so the point should read as "being closer or not." obviously hand shuffle does not guarantee the cards will be..

POSTED BY:
ChilyRooster

Jun 04, 08 02:19 AM

WOW ....lets play live and I will crack ur aces over and over the reason it seems like it happens more is you see so many more hands online then in life sometimes 4 tables at once....next point is count how many times aa holds and kk wins people forget all the success with monsters and tend to only remember the sting of the suckout.....grab a deck of cards pull out AA and a k7 and a 99 then 10 times do a flor turn and river...I betcha 3 times u lose well online count the next 10 times u get AA a

POSTED BY:
Axman

Jun 04, 08 02:08 AM

Yep, just as I suspected. There are people who think that a hand shuffled and dealt by hand must be more random than a hand generated by an RNG program. The concept of "true probability" is also fascinating.

POSTED BY:
DrCheckRaise

Jun 03, 08 11:57 PM

WOW, I think you really believe this...BS I can't even begin to itemize the things you mistated here.