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Value Town and Other Hilarious Incidents

By SparkyMalone
Mar 01, 08 08:33 PM

I'll begin this with a tip that it appears a frightening amount of people need to hear: min betting is worthless. It's a ticket to value town for any bad par or two over cards. If you want to use a feeler bet, by al means do so but that a good feel is two maybe three times the big blind until blinds are over the 100 chip mark, even then depending on the size of the stacks you're feeling out.

And this brings me to my amusing story. I in a tourney, for points no less meaning I'm already running loose and wild, and I have a good number of chips, the blinds are 150-300, so I'm feeling good, having fun. I'm in the big blind with 10-3 off folds to the guy one off the dealer who's handle is eluding me he min raises small blind folds I call. Flop comes 10-5-3 rainbow giving me a nice little two pair to play with. I check to see what the raiser will do, bets 800, I call. Turn comes another 3 so I have 3s full. I bet a respectable 1800 chips try and get the aggressor to fold and save himself some chips, he shoves over top of me for another 2500, I insta-call he shows pocket aces. He then proceeds to flood the chat complaining about how much of a donkey I am to have played 10-3 going on and on question how I made that preflop call.

Anyway I tell this story because it may amuse some of you more seasoned players and for those less experienced take it as a lesson. if you have a big hand raise big or don't complain when it gets beat. Now when you raise big and still get sucked out on, then by all means feel free to complain :-P


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POSTED BY:
Axman

Mar 01, 08 08:46 PM

Excellent point, Spark.

POSTED BY:
Brickman

Mar 01, 08 09:43 PM

The best one is when you make a pre flop raise four times the big blind and get two or more callers. On the flop an early position caller leads out with a minimum bet. I'll raise in this situtation everytime, with any two cards, no matter how much I misssed the flop by.

Ussually the bettor will fold but you do get the occassionally call and check turn.

They might as well say, " Here, take my chips!"

POSTED BY:
Reversme

Mar 01, 08 10:09 PM

Consciously playing to hit runner-runner is, naturally, not a good strategic move. The odds of catching two cards in a row to make your hand are usually quite small. Runner-runner flushes have odds of no more than 4% of hitting; runner-runner straights have odds of less than 1%. Bad players and calling stations often stay in hoping for runner-runner hands but lose much more money in the long run than they win when they make their hand.

POSTED BY:
emilysmom

Mar 01, 08 10:49 PM

If my chips are already in the pot there is no way that a min raise is going to get me out of the hand, no matter what I have!

POSTED BY:
wptbound

Mar 01, 08 11:00 PM

well Sparky you had every right to call his min bet, it was only a min raise preflop and your in the BB. I would call too with any two cards, as it really is only half a bet to me, since i am in a forced bet position. But every word you say is true, they will complain and call you the donkey. Drives me crazy and I sit here laughing at them, thinking well what they heck were you thinking ding dong! You let him flop two pair! But it always boils down to those, who think they played it right

POSTED BY:
MassPoker

Mar 02, 08 07:44 PM

Yea...It amazes me when a player holding a monster hand like pocket aces or kings, slow plays them trying to set someone up for a trap, and then gets sucked out on and complains because their trap failed. Well...It's no wonder it failed. Listen folks, if you try to be slick and think aces, kings, or any hand for that matter is infaliable, think again. Any pre-flop hand is susceptible to being beaten and if you play the big uns' expecting to pull a fast one, and it fails. Learn from the mistake.

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