Honestly...its not collusion at all...you had nothing to do with it... at this point it was just table conversation collusion would be me telling you what i have in order to better both of us..or having pre planned signals...you cant help what people around you say..in a casino however. that would be the idiot that got the pit boss on both of you
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COLLUSION OR NOT?
By ace1ofheartsJan 22, 09 12:18 PM

I am sure this "incident" will be discussed, so I figured I'll put my 2 cents in, because I was involved in it, not by choice though...
This is what happened : not sure of the chip counts, but I will keep it as close as I can remember...
10 players left in an Omaha tournament, the blinds are huge, if I remember right it was 800-1600.
I am the second shortest stack with about 1860, the shortest stack is at the other table, he has less than I have, maybe about 760 or so.
Of course I am in the big blind, that leaves me no options but to play this hand. I am watching the other table and I know that the shortest stack will be all-in the very same hand. He is sitting out in the big blind there.
On the flop I catch a flush draw and a straight draw, a pair even... so I am not going to fold 260 to anything to 4000 pot, even if I was drawing dead.
I was on the bubble ( well, one guy shorter ) but I had the odds to win my hand.
What happened then, was : one player told the other one : let her win!
So the second player folded his hand to me.
At the same time the shortest stack ( who had been sitting out for a long time ) got knocked out.
I - on the other hand - had doubled up.
So, one player started screaming: collusion!
OK.
I might be wrong, and I apologize myself here in advance. English is obviously not my first language. But, I did look up for the word collusion : it means that people make up schemes in advance and try to screw someone over. It is a pre-determined thing.
I had no idea what had happened though, I was multi-tasking and I was really surprised I had made the final table.
I came back to the table and there were two players going at it : WHAT THE F.?
I totally agree with the player that said, you shouldn't say anything of that kind to "coach" another player. When the hand is in progress, it is one player to a hand.
Then again, it is up to any one person to act upon their hand as they wish.
I don't know if that comment made the other player fold, probably did. I might have won the hand anyway.
The "dislike" of players sitting-out - I do not understand. They paid their fair share and they can do what ever they want with their chips. ( Dr.C-R ----- I went to war with one guy about that several months ago, not sure if you followed, but I made my opinion clear and loud ) .
First of all, I NEVER want to win anything by "default."
What I am trying to say is: It was wrong and unethical for one person to tell another player what to do with their hand, but was it collusion per se? I didn't do anything wrong.
I am typing out, wishing y'all a wonderful day!


COMMENTS
collusion...I dont really think so...Ace sometimes I think you are just too nice of a person...go get em girl




bigkahuna
personally if i see u playing and on the bubble while other short stack is sitting out like a baby, I would donate to you too if i had the chips to do so