Read wht you can find on "action flops".
Type something like "doverpro" and "action flops" into googleand you will find a good artical.
Some would say in order to KEEP players they have to FEED the bottom fish or the cream would rise to the top and wipe out all others over time.. JUST one (more) "theory"

I have to agree with the majority of comments made. Yesterday I was one of the qualifiers, down to 200, top 153 get points. Short stacked I get AK sooooted in EP I insta shove obv, chipleader calls me. I don't blame him for calling at all, he had the chips, he had the odds, and he had the opportunity to knock me out. He had A3. When the flop came AAJ I was pretty confident I would be raking in the pot, then the turn was a 3.... One of the other players said they folded 33, so the CL hit the case

read my bolg river of doom

I agree with Pusher on this. I will say maybe people are getting angry with you because you are yelling. I'm sure you know if you TYPE IN CAPS you are yelling. Just a thought.

Grillick, I don't think you played enough hands to say this software is fair. I played a lot more hands than you & i only been here less than a month. You work for SpadeClub?

Well Mr. Smarty pants! I entered a tourney on spadeclub, decided to test the donk rewards. OMG, I played the worst hands, stood in first place almost all the way to the money! Got close, and decided to lay off the donking. Here's the scenerio:
Pocket AK
checked
all but 1 player folds
flop AA5
I aggressivly bet
he calls
turn card 2
he raises!
I go all in
river 2

I think, ok, got a boat..
He had 4 2's!
He went all in on a pocket 27!
Unfreakin real!
No money for me!

But thanks f

You're welcome and I'm sorry. Ranting is cool, but I've been at it a long time and always seem to attract bad elements.

I may be way off, it would just be easier for the site to have bots play the game and take a percentage of the prize pool which would stay in the bank. I've seen a bot. Not here at betzip.com. The name was it's chip total and changed after every hand. It was also is unbeatable. betzip canceled my account and took away all the points I had won fairly. Pickpockets!

The numbers don't add up in any book. They advertise a million in prizes, but even with 10,000 members at 149 the prize money is barely covered. There may be 10,000 members, but not all of them at active the entire year. I joined in April, but was domant for 8 months and only paid one month dues.

I see people play like they knew they were going to win. Maybe investors, or there kids collecting their portion. We don't know who runs the show, but it's probably a front fot organized crime

I think it's even worse than I stated. I just got off a table where a guy went all in 85-90% of the time and won every time. It was as if he knew he was going to win. Maybe these "donkey", are really shills. Friends and family of the investors and the investors themselves who are collecting their investment. If you look at the numbers, with only 400 people playing in the weekly game and maybe 500 in the monthly, even at the 20 bucks a month we are looking at only 10,000 in income. Yes. I

My pocket K's have lost 2 times in a row, while I've seen others win. I may not understand the term, I see people play every hand and end up winning, yet when I play every hand, I don't last very long. My issue is with the RNG. It's not really an RNG, it's a pseudo RNG. They are totally different beasts. One sends out true random numbers, and the other spits out numbers that only look random. That's why bad play works. I don't think most people will fold a pocket pair A's-J's preflop eve

Jeff, 100 hands isn't even close to enough hands to give you a statistically significant read on the accuracy of the program. If you're off by 3% in 100 hands, more likely than not it's just an abnormality. These things occur all the time in any sort of random system. You would need thousands of data points to prove statistically that there's something wrong with the system.

It isn't about new players or inexperienced players or anything like that. It is about the odds of there inferior hand coming from behind with like 4 to 15% odds to win on the river and actually getting there. I believe that the software is flawed and I am going to do a 100 hand bad beat analysis over that period of time. If out of 100 hands they win on the river 18% or better, then something is wrong with the software. Period.

24Out, me and fellow members of Spadeclub are starting a REVOLUTION against the program that deals the cards in Spadeclub, we will create a group and collect enough evidence as print screens of run and runner bad beats that we all suffer here, so we can email them to the Spade Club Administration, I'M SICK AND TIRED OF BAD BEATS HERE ON THE RIVER!!!

C YA Dude, and GL at The Tables!!! (What for?? the river is going to reward the Donk anyways!!!)

Just Close ur eyes and pray the river is not

badges for hands played is minor to the bounty badge. if spadeclub had any sense, they would have a cash badge for all cashes. why are finals with no cash counted while 500 and up not? its all in the marketing to compensate for cash and promos.

I can't say SC is any different than other sites or face games regarding bad beats. Yeah, I do see more beginners (translate that as "bad players"), but everybody's gotta start somewhere. Solid players like yourself, who just keep getting better, will naturally see less players who are at your own level. Pros complain about this all the time. I've seen my own game improve by playing against folks with a mix of skill levels. I'd hate to see good players leave SC because of the presence of new, in