true, and the other big thing is i've never seen so many people just call instead of raising. i've lost many pots where i'm betting into someone just calling with top pair when they probably should be raising

Gotcha, jl. You see what I mean though, right? That info makes all the difference in the world. And on this site, there seem to be a ton of min bet/min raise addicts who bitch about "donks" playing them out of pots.

put it this way tyler - i dont minimum raise, and i never c-bet less than at least 2/3 pot. so, preflop, he had no business calling (he was sb but all others folded) . postflop, checkraise is just stupid.

twick, good posts, u make me laugh.

check this donk fest out: Pointbuilder II 7:15a.m.today, just a few mins ago. I spotted a world class donk across the table. he was in Mid Pos. He opened betting (10/20blinds, remember 1st hand of tourney) with 120. I hold J 5 spades -a monster for him, so a call isolates him. Flop J23 rainbow. I got the donk-nuts. It was so easy getting him all in. turn 8, river K. I triumphantly turn over my jacks and he shows two pair: 8's and 3's. opened betting MP w/83o and sat on it. I am uberdonk.now!

Hey jl great job in that 500...and many good lucks to come...Sheeee

cont'd ly entered the fray with a subpar kicker (he gets an "A" for moxy). Badges are pending Card Player approval, after thorough documentaion and review. I think it safe to say, though, that I have two new DONKULATOR brethren in my evergrowing stable. We win through sheer numbers and volume of bad bets.

Wrote this down while it happened just for you, jt131. second hand of 500 nightly. No action. 4th seat from BB opens betting with 10(yes, ten) times the blinds. eveyone folds except SB who calls. Since they were the only two combatants, cards were face up. Player 1: K9 soooooted(if I may borrow your terminology). No. 2: K6 soooooted. Flop33K, turn5, river 2. Player 1 doubles up via the pure power of domination (kicker9 vs. kicker6). I hereby have installed them both, even though player 2 foolish

Having some bad players at the table really isn't always a bad thing. They really are going to lose more than they are going to win. Remember you are a good player, that is why it seems you get sucked all the time. Good players are always going to have more bad beats because they are all-in with the best hand. I hear you though, it is so frustrating. Especially when you know you made all the right plays and it is almost always a terrible call for the other party.

Great stuff!!!! Yoou are an excellent writer. getting bogged in all the minutiae just dulls the edge of the whole piece. If you leave Sppadeclub, will yo at least play and write on wed? I look forward to it as much as the game itself. You'll see me out there on night. I'm a donkulator. I donk myself into a full steam and then finally blow into a torrent of bad overbets and foolharky calls. Bad poker, but exciting because when I lose it I have no idea what is happening, I am like a pinball baounc

Always see people complaining about bad play of other, especially when they get beat. You have to remember that this is Poker, and it is gambling. Everyone hates a bad beat, and we wonder why the other person called with what we consider a bad hand. I think that is why we get upset, but sometimes it just takes a hunch, or the other person may be bluffing and gets lucky. Have been beat with better hands by lesser cards many times, and yes it is disturbing, but have to learn take it with a gra

So much information missing here. What was the stack comparison? Where was he positioned? Size of your preflop raise? His pot odds to call preflop? What was the size of your postflop bet? How far over the top was he going when he raised you all-in?

Honestly, the information you choose to share makes you look loose and yeah, he looks kind of donkish. But context is everything, and there's not nearly enough info to determine if either of you played the hand particularly well or poorly.