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it's only a pair

By mike1767
Aug 02, 08 02:45 PM

a question was posted by Ranoe and I would like to further explain my answer.
"You are playing in the Main Event of the WSOP sitting in the under-the-gun+1 position. In the very first hand the player under-the-gun, to the left of the big blind, goes all-in. You look at your cards and discover AA. What do you do? "
As the title of this says, it is only a pair all-be-it a powerful pair but the only thing it beats basically is a high card (i'm not crazy read on). You only have two outs to improve and if the original raiser has an ace (may be likely) you only have one out. SO.....
1). first hand, you've invested nothing, you have 5 other players waiting to act, you have 1 solid out maybe. You would have to be absolutely positive that your pair would hold up. This does not look like a good place to throw all my chips in.
2). you have 0 information on anyone on the table, there may be another maniac waiting in the shadows to call and then guess what, you can just about kiss the tournament goodbye
some people will argue intensely with this but I definitely beleive you need to select your battles carefully and this would be one of those "maybe next time moments". would like to hear some constuctive comments cause this is what the blog is supposed to be for.


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POSTED BY:
DrCheckRaise

Aug 02, 08 05:45 PM

Actually if you told me he had an ace, one of my outs, I am in, cause he is drawing alot slimer than I am. I much reather him have an ace then he have J10 suited.

POSTED BY:
Ranoe

Aug 03, 08 02:48 AM

Actually the question (In a very slightly different form was put to readers of Card Player about 3 years ago just before the start of the WSOP. There was to be a follow-up article after pros and others responded, but I never saw it. I did ask SC Kenny about it but have not heard back from him yet. Does anyone remember the article?) There were quite a few replys to this situation, and I agree with mike. Suppose the all-in also has AA, I could lose to him hitting a flush. Why put all my chips to

POSTED BY:
Ranoe

Aug 03, 08 02:57 AM

Why put all my chips in to possible split the blinds? Also, I could lose to the worst hand, 2,3 off suit, with 9 or 10 players at a table.
Moreover, as Mike said, there could be other callers after me which would also lessen the value of my hand. If I fold in this situation, I still have 20,000 chips to us for a better situation to araise. If it were the final table I'm all-in also. But not here, not for me. Now in todays $40K tournament, same situation, I call.
Hope to see you at final table

POSTED BY:
Symon

Aug 03, 08 03:23 AM

Apparently you're looking for an answer YOU agree with. I stick by my earlier answer.

POSTED BY:
Horsepower

Aug 03, 08 03:27 PM

fold

POSTED BY:
Unfoldable

Aug 07, 08 03:55 AM

Ok you said you got pocket aces and someone goes all in preflop infront of you. It doesn't matter if this is WSOP, WPT, etc. you play it the way you would play just like in any other tourney and the right move is to go all in yourself. If you deside to fold because you are a chicken or you think you don't have enough information about the other players or no balls at all. I suggest you quit playing poker and try bingo... at least at bingo testicles are not required to play the game.

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