still waiting for an apology ........

a tax payer voting for barrack obama is like a chicken voting for cournal sanders

accumulating points to win tokens that is all I try to do. So keep jabbing mr cheney. I dont have a problem with you, nor did I once say I did.

who said im angry? thats your percepetion and its wrong. The fact is this blog is about someone telling me I am full of shit, that it wasnt written, and that I play garbadge hands. I provided the proof, But vincent cant admit he is wrong. I like how you contiually tell me how I dont make final tables, anybody can sit around on this site and play all the freerolls, thats ur choice. I rather take my game somwhere else where real money is involved. I signed up for sundays, and other than

who said im angry? thats your percepetion and its wrong. The fact is this blog is about someone telling me I am full of shit, that it wasnt written, and that I play garbadge hands. I provided the proof, But vincent cant admit he is wrong. I like how you contiually tell me how I dont make final tables, anybody can sit around on this site and play all the freerolls, thats ur choice. I rather take my game somwhere else where real money is involved. I signed up for sundays, and other than

Sry for the post on my husbands name I was using his computer this morning. But that is the hole point I come to SC to enjoy and get better at poker. If you would just be a little nicer, that would be great. And if u bust someone with a wierd hand expect a little bitching. But dont just sit there adding fuel to the fire. (Bragging, Talking Down to other players ect.) I am sure u do not do this in a live game, so why here? Lets just all try to get along. And I will take back the killing thing SRY

Continuing...
Respect for an elder has been a cherished part of our heritage and that of most civilizations throughout history. And you can find that one in the REAL Bible. Not to be a thumper. Now I for one have accomplished more in life than you might ever dream of. Far more than the game of poker offers. So, slow down. Take a deep breath. It is quite alright to listen to others and make nice. Going through life as an angry young man is no fun. You don't have to. So chill bro. OK?

You are correct, you have only played 7400 hands plus or minus. Which still means you are making final tables at the rate of 1 every 3700 hands. Now you claim this is because you are only playing weekly and monthly. Well, fine. Explain it away. I can tell you this, you have a significant attitude problem kid. You need to grow up. You are young, impetuous and will not be a real winner until you get that ego in check. THAT I can promise you. Take that as some advice from an elder....

Sewerej,

The point of this blog was to point out that you are an ass, not because of the way you play your cards, but how you were running your mouth at the table. I wasn't even involved in the hand, but thought it funny how you played a garbage hand and then got snapped off in the process. If you want to play those hands, then by all means do so (your choice), but you don't have to be an ass while doing so.

This chat log was picked up after u had been Talking trash non stop. Talking down to players way before I got into it wih u.

against you. I appreciate your comments but I do believe the two instigators of this blog are both not only poor players, but wrong as well. They commented on my game, and what I defined as playing suited connecting cards. They denied that it came out of supersystem and I proved them wrong. END OF STORY

Lets at least get the facts staright. I have not played 9000 hands, not even 8k sir. I rarely play on this site aside from sundays. The only reason I am here is because I find value in the 40k event, as i percieve the level of play to be weak. To judge my game without knowing all the facts is a tad bit misleading. I find no value in playing 20, 50, , or 75, or even 500 dollar freerolls to be quite honest with you. I play to win tokens to play on sunday, its really that simple. I have nothing

Lets at least get the facts staright. I have not played 9000 hands, not even 8k sir. I rarely play on this site aside from sundays. The only reason I am here is because I find value in the 40k event, as i percieve the level of play to be weak. To judge my game without knowing all the facts is a tad bit misleading. I find no value in playing 20, 50, , or 75, or even 500 dollar freerolls to be quite honest with you. I play to win tokens to play on sunday, its really that simple. I have nothing

P.S. Given I have won 6 tournaments in Stud, Omaha Hi, Omaha Hi/Lo and NLHE (2) with fields from 2850 to 12k seats and FT'd in quite a few more large fields and made the money in dozens freerolls and otherwise off this site (almost all of which I have screenshots for if you have any doubts) as well as won many, many, many small field tourneys I'd appreciate some respect, PERIOD. I am not a big stakes player like some around here claim to be, but once upon a time I did sit in on some. So GL 2 U.

By strafing the crowd here as if you were holding an Uzi you are not helping yourself. I didn't reply as if I were hostile to you. You did interpret it that way, however. Let's change the tone of the discussion to one where we all benefit by learning something. Let me just say thing one thing though. You are 24. I was about to finish college when you were born and I was already playing poker by then. Could you please possibly assume I might know a thing or two about the game? Appreciate it.

I am not even playing close to my potential, but that is beside the point. Right now the caliber of your game shows room for improvement. It shows in your stats. You are a young man. You have some fire in your belly. At your age I did too. I'm 46 now. I look back and see things I did right and things I did wrong. I had mentors. I learned. Sometimes, though, I was stubborn and rash. My advice, slow down. Great wine takes time to age. If you've read it, that doesn't mean you've understood it.

Rawej, I've nothing against you personally. If you have read anything I have written before you will have read this, "The great ones write their own books." And, "Read all the books, play by them except go off book so that you shake up your opponents so they can't read you like a book." Having said that, You've played over 9k hands here. You have 2 FT's. I have 17 in 38k hands and I have been ill most of my time here as well as going through a divorce. I also have 3 wins. In my book that sucks.

comes out , the truth that is, all you can say is go kill yourself. Like I said before, you are defiantly a class act

the fact remains suited straight making cards are worth playing, and that is common from the best in the game. This blog shouldnt even exist, vincent has no business throwing stones, he hasnt won a damn thing and mrs pebbles is worse. Come to think of it I think she was the one calling names in the first place, you can see that in the chat log. Its absurd to think you people think you understand this game so much to write a blog, when there is so much proof out there that your wrong. And when it

dont you educate yourself. This would have never happened if both of you wouldnt have spouted your mouths off with your expert analysis ! And Ballsofsteel, I dont even know what your argument means. Every situation on the poker table is different, but the fact of the matter stands - Suited conncecting cards are a big part of poker sucess, and it is clearly stated in the book that you need to see flops as often as possible with them. Argue all you want about different cirucumstances, however

WOW Lady, your a real class act ! You and your army of loons are the ones commenting on everyones play. Just because you people dont understand advance poker concepts doesnt mean the world has to abide by your poor logic. If you want to sit around , wait for big hands and hope they hold up god bless you. Its not a winning strategy, the good hands dont come by enough to suceed in tournment play consistently. And before you spout your mouth off about how horrible a hand this is and that is, why

Bottom Line he is an ASSSSSSSSSSS I know it, we all know it. He has been turned in more times the Carter has oats. But he must be kissing someones butt to still be chatting. He is a looser no matter if he wins or not. Do the world a favor and Kill yourself. Now that would bring a smile to my face.

Before you go running off with that advice, you better read carefully the exact wording of what he wrote. His hope is to fatten up a pot as he put it "A RELATIVELY SMALL AMOUNT OF ADDITIONAL MONEY IN THE POT" hoping to see the flop the bust the guy with the right flop. That is a strategy he might employ and I'm sure it's not his run of the mill daily ploy. I almost broke a guy with this technique today. I was lucky and doubled up. But, I almost bought the farm. Use great care.

He calls them connecting, not the vernacular "Suited Connectors". Two different things. If you really want to expand the definition, fine. Theoretically, you are right, but not really a strong position. You also said it was a raisable hand. He said in his book he would raise in late position with the hand. I am fully sure that would depend on the action so far on board. Otherwise, he says he hoped he would get raised. I am also sure that would depend on many factors such as size of raise. Cont..

PAIR AND RAISES BEHIND ME. THEN, I CAN PUT A RELATIVELY SMALL AMOUNT OF ADDITIONAL MONEY IN THE POT....AND, IF I GET A TURN - I CAN BREAK HIM."

Sure sounds like the godfather of poker sure considers them suited connecting and very playable. Play however you want, but know the facts before you run your mouth. I think everyone is laughing at you.

Really sir, Everyone is laughing at me ? I dont care what you do or how you play. Page 489 of Supersystem ( the bible - which Im sure you know nothing about) Exact words moron, "WITH ANY TWO CONNECTING CARDS TO A STRAIGHT FLUSH SUCH AS THE TOP AND BOTTOM CARDS OF A STRAIGHT FLUSH 8C-4C OR JH-7H.....ID COME IN IN ANY POSISTION. IN LATE POSISITON I'D RAISE WITH THEM. I'M REALLY LOOKING TO GET RAISED WHEN I COME IN WITH THIS HAND IN EARLY OR MIDDLE POSISTION. IN FACT, I HOPE SOMEONE HAS A BIG PAI

Biggie, Read my posts carefully before you go jumping down my throat. Yes, I have opinions, but I think if you really read what I said, what he is claiming is way outside the normal vernacular for what he is claiming. And, certainly NO BOOK is suggesting 7-3 suited is a NORMAL raising hand. I did not say he COULDN'T raise with it. Hell, you can do whatever you want with any two cards in order to play your opponent. I sucked out a straight today playing 5-6 suited against trip aces. Donk? Dunno?

Neither of you are right or wrong. It is player perception.

This is from Super System http://nation.bodoglife.com/poker-news/on-the-button-playing-suited-connectors-367098.html
Posted at Bodog Nation. I have played with Doyle Brunson quite a few times. I have seen him personally play Q 5 suited out of position. I have seen him play J 7 off suite as well out of position. I sat with the guy for 12 hours one day. He doesnt always follow his own advice. There are no RULES. It is Poker, play and call your hands whatever y ou want to. Simple as that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suited_connectors

Well actually Vincent, if you got to Wikepedia and type in "suited connectors" you will get what I wrote. It is direct from Wikepedia. Now knowing full well that Wikepedia is not an actual 100% accurate source. There are "gaps" in suited connectors. There is no right or wrong explanation. Balls-a-Steel likes to always think he is right. In this case however, it is simply "poker" there is no specific "rule". This again is what makes Poker the game that it is. A million perspectives.

Give it up sewerej. You were put in your place and you dont know what you're talking about. Your cards were not even close to being connected. Everyone is laughing at you.

Glad someone else knows the real definiton of a suited connecter. Read a book slick before you running your mouth about this and that - SUPERSYSTEM - pick up a copy

Glad someone else knows the real definiton of a suited connecter. Read a book slick before you running your mouth about this and that - SUPERSYSTEM - pick up a copy

Actually biggie, here are few definitions of "connectors" from some reputable sources and I would bet that most poker players are familiar with these definitions:
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connectors - Two or more cards of consecutive rank. (wikipedia)
connector - A hold'em starting hand in which the two cards are one apart in rank. (Pokernews)
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The point I'm trying to make in this blog is that this person "s

In common parlance suited connectors will be 5-6, 7-8 and such... NO gaps. One off, two off and such will NOT be considered suited connectors IN DAILY REFERENTIAL LANGUAGE. These will be referenced by the average person in the lingo, suited one off or whatever is more precise. Only a novice would extend the languge in such broad terms. No sophisticated player would use The Super System or any other book to justify raising with any 4 gap low end suited pockets even in low limit. EOD.

Vincent I was on that table, that guy was too funny!

So I guess technically he had a 4 gap suited connector. There is no specific rule to say whether it is or it is not. The beauty of poker is that anyone can play, anyone can win, and everyone has a different perception. This is what makes the game great.

You can also have two and three gap suited connectors, such as 3♠ 6♠ and 5♦ 9♦.

Suited connectors is a poker term referring to pocket cards that are suited and are close enough to each other that they can form a straight on the flop. For example: Aâ™  3â™ , Q♥ J♥, 5♦ 9♦ are all suited connectors because they can form a flush or a straight on the flop. A hand like Aâ™  7â™  is not considered a suited connector because although it is suited, the cards together do not help form a straight. You can also have two and three gap suited connectors, such as 3â™  6â™  and 5â™